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John Bishop's guest this week is award-winning film director Ken Loach

John Bishop's guest this week is award-winning film director Ken Loach, and if it seems that interviewer and guest are immediately at ease, that's because they've known each other since John starred in Ken's 2010 thriller Route Irish.

They discuss Ken's filmmaking methods, how, at the age of 80, he has so much energy ('When you’re engaged with people who care about what they do, they invigorate you', he says) and why he thinks programmes like Benefits Street are 'fascist television'.